Quick Hits: Disenfranchised Nuns & Crazy Antis

Terri Whitehouse May 6th, 2008

Elderly nuns in South Bend, IN were turned away from their polling place today, thanks to Indiana’s GOP-backed voter ID law. (h/t: Crooks & Liars)

Anti-choice activists contend that 20% of American women are “murderers.” (h/t: Feministing)

14 Responses to “Quick Hits: Disenfranchised Nuns & Crazy Antis”

  1. Herodotuson 07 May 2008 at 9:21 am

    So even after last night’s Gary Indiana Fiasco you still think voter I.D. cards are a bad idea? Plus Indiana has FREE I.D.’s so there is no bases in claiming it is infringing on anyone (not that Dems normally mind taxing or charging fees).

    Seriously, had the spotlight not been put on Gary and it’s crackpot Mayor Obama was going to win Indiana last night. It took Gary four hours to press the buttons on the machines to tell the votes.

  2. Herodotuson 07 May 2008 at 9:28 am

    Also, did anyone catch Obama’s alternative history?
    Go to the text of his speech, 2nd page, third paragraph (from http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/text-obama-victory-speech/story.aspx?guid=%7BD13BC6C5-0351-4038-8A65-80B9B5E8C65A%7D)

    “I trust the American people to understand that it’s not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but our enemies — like Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did.”

    Uhm, excuse me… Roosevelt NEVER talked to our enemies… we refused any discussion with Japan until they would leave China (which they never did until after the war) and we NEVER set down with Hitler. So is Obama saying he would have met with HITLER??? REALLY? Wow… he would have negotiated with Hitler.

  3. Herodotuson 07 May 2008 at 9:31 am

    Also, the nuns knew in advance they needed an I.D. and could have got to Vote if they made it to get an ID for 10 days after the election.

  4. Terrion 07 May 2008 at 9:46 am

    It took Gary four hours to press the buttons on the machines to tell the votes.

    Yes, we are all aware of the fact that there’s little else that Republicans hate more than high voter turnout. That’s, by your definition, a “fiasco?”

    Per the article and your comment regarding those lazy socialist nuns:

    They weren’t given provisional ballots because it would be impossible to get them to a motor vehicle branch and back in the 10-day time frame allotted by the law, Sister McGuire said. “You have to remember that some of these ladies don’t walk well. They’re in wheelchairs or on walkers or electric carts.”

    Nonetheless, she said, the convent will make a “very concerted effort” to get proper identification for the nuns in time for the general election. “We’re going to take from now until November to get them out and get this done. You can’t do this like school kids on a bus,” she said. “I wish we could.”

    Way to lose the Catholic vote, GOP! Tell your candidate to keep on cozying up to Hagee!

  5. Herodotuson 08 May 2008 at 9:01 am

    WTF? My 81 year old father-in-law was in a wheelchair due to copd and still made it to the DMV to get his license renewed last year.

    I don’t think it’s asking too much to find time ONCE to get an ID made.

    And, no, record voters is not a fiasco. Just look at the record voting last Presidential election, oh and who won that? Kind of disproved that old Democrat Myth that they’d win if more people voted.

    But come on Terri, you know what was going on in Gary as well as everyone else does. It doesn’t take four hours to press the button on the AUTOMATED MACHINES. They weren’t hand counting those votes. They were votes on an absentee voter machine. Plus, they waited hours before they started printing out the results on all the REGULAR machines.

    Nice try to cover for them, but I’m sure if you were a Clinton supporter you’d be livid. And if this was the fall and that was a Republican county waiting to see how many votes were needed the blogosphere would explode.

    Ultimately, I just can’t understand why ANYONE would oppose making sure that voters are who they say they are. The only readon anyone has to oppose doing that is because they want to make it easier to steal elections with voters voting multiple times or unregistered voters voting.

  6. Terrion 08 May 2008 at 10:10 am

    But come on Terri, you know what was going on in Gary as well as everyone else does. It doesn’t take four hours to press the button on the AUTOMATED MACHINES. They weren’t hand counting those votes. They were votes on an absentee voter machine. Plus, they waited hours before they started printing out the results on all the REGULAR machines.

    Actually, no. I was unaware of any problems in Gary. Contrary to what you may think about me and how I may present myself, I do not, in fact, know everything. :)

    Nice try to cover for them, but I’m sure if you were a Clinton supporter you’d be livid. And if this was the fall and that was a Republican county waiting to see how many votes were needed the blogosphere would explode.

    See previous comment. You know I’m not a Clinton supporter? Wow. That’s pretty crazy. Because even I don’t know who I’m voting for in two weeks.

    Ultimately, I just can’t understand why ANYONE would oppose making sure that voters are who they say they are. The only readon anyone has to oppose doing that is because they want to make it easier to steal elections with voters voting multiple times or unregistered voters voting.

    Even the Republicans themselves have conceded that there have been no cases of voter fraud to support their ID requirement. Give it up, Herodotus. The reason for this law is transparent as all getout, and it AIN’T to protect the “sanctity” of elections, that’s for darn sure.

  7. Kevinon 08 May 2008 at 12:08 pm

    A person can have a vaild ID made. I know several people who don’t drive, but have an ID. It just makes sense to require an ID for voting. I am not saying that all people trying to vote without an ID is there to commit fraud, but what would be stoping some low life from voting in several areas. I don’t think we need “voter ID cards,” but I think a photo ID should be required to vote.

    Even if there has never been a problem with voter fraud, do we want to wait until we have a problem then try and figure out how to fix it. We (The United States) have been down that road before on many subjects and we should not travel the same path again.

  8. kilowaton 08 May 2008 at 12:24 pm

    who can’t get fake ID cards!! the police caught Mexicans in Tn with blank green cards drivers lic,SS cards from about 3 states. you think the precincts workers could tell a fake? LOL

  9. Kevinon 08 May 2008 at 12:30 pm

    So kilowat, what is the solution? Or do you live with your head in the sand and say it won’t happen?

  10. Terrion 08 May 2008 at 12:34 pm

    Kevin, you’re missing the point, and it matters because:

    1) “A good authoritarian flex of power is about using the instinct of self-preservation to turn people against each other and to make them afraid of speaking out.

    2) “Voter fraud is something the GOP gets hysterical about, like welfare fraud. And like welfare fraud the GOP turns reality on its head.

  11. kilowaton 08 May 2008 at 4:26 pm

    why do people have to be such a smart ass,
    you think voter Id cards will stop voter fraud?? NO, do you need one for a absentee ballot?

  12. Kevinon 08 May 2008 at 4:49 pm

    Kilo,

    I never said that we need voter ID cards. Matter of fact, I said that we did not. However, I think that an ID should be shown to vote.

    No, I do not think that an ID will stop voter fraud. No more than I think a lock on a door will stop me from being robbed. If someone wants to break the law, they will. We all know that.

    I don’t have all the answers. That is why I asked you what the solution is.

  13. kilowaton 08 May 2008 at 5:53 pm

    I wish ditchmitch would let us post links

    clammyc :: Election fraud expert Mark Crispin Miller LIVE on BlogTalkRadio at 4PM Eastern
    Mark is the author of Fooled Again and has a new book hot off the presses called Loser Take All - both of which are chock full of information related to the 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006 (yes, 2006) elections and how races were stolen in each of these elections (and yes, I am using the word stolen as well).

    I won’t rehash everything that I have written about here, but you can be sure that we will be touching on the following topics:

    * The “gaming of the system from the inside”
    * The DOJ Voting Rights Section politicization
    * The voter ID anti-voter laws being passed
    * Election day vote suppression tactics
    * Uncertified and unreliable voting machines being approved for use without proper review
    * Lawsuits filed by the DOJ in the name of “vote fairness” that were really mass suppression tactics
    * The US Attorney scandal and how this ties in
    * How exit polls were “suddenly” unreliable beginning in 2000 after being reliable for many years (and in many countries)
    * Looking forward and how to fix the process
    blogtalkradio.com/epradio

  14. Kevinon 09 May 2008 at 7:58 am

    I hope that I get the chance to listen to that discussion. It should be interesting.

    However, you never have answered my question. What is the answer, in your opinion, to fix the voting problem as you see it? Or do you say there is not a problem to fix?

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