Comments on: Calling out Kos and Jonathan Singer: Why? http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/ A Commonwealth United to Defeat Mitch McConnell Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:41:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: PJ Kemp http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-4243 PJ Kemp Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:36:46 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-4243 I want Mitch out any way that it can happen. I even mailed him a Ditch Mitch 08 shirt in a Ditch Mitch 08 tote bag. Sent it to his Washington office, and never got a thank you. The only contributions that I will be making this time is to the person running against Mitch. The last election cycle, I helped every Dem that asked for it. P.S. I got an invitation to Gov. Beshears inauguration and ball (a day late). He is off to a good start. I want Mitch out any way that it can happen. I even mailed him a Ditch Mitch 08 shirt in a Ditch Mitch 08 tote bag. Sent it to his Washington office, and never got a thank you. The only contributions that I will be making this time is to the person running against Mitch. The last election cycle, I helped every Dem that asked for it. P.S. I got an invitation to Gov. Beshears inauguration and ball (a day late). He is off to a good start.

]]> By: seesyou http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3910 seesyou Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:59:28 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3910 according to a post at BlueGrassRoots by Liz Fossett: Kati, Kim and Liz are all the same person. Her excuse is that multiple people use the same computer. Which means several people must have the exact same language and grammatical patterns. This means the organizer of the Draft Crit movement is out openly attacking people and trying to hide it according to a post at BlueGrassRoots by Liz Fossett: Kati, Kim and Liz are all the same person. Her excuse is that multiple people use the same computer. Which means several people must have the exact same language and grammatical patterns.

This means the organizer of the Draft Crit movement is out openly attacking people and trying to hide it

]]> By: Richard D. http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3907 Richard D. Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:32:21 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3907 C. Wash, Thanks for your service. I would much rather talk about why I like Stumbo than why I wouldn't like the others. The fact of the matter is we simply MUST beat McConnell this time around even if it is Wile E. Coyote that does it!! Best wishes!! C. Wash,

Thanks for your service. I would much rather talk about why I like Stumbo than why I wouldn’t like the others. The fact of the matter is we simply MUST beat McConnell this time around even if it is Wile E. Coyote that does it!!

Best wishes!!

]]> By: Jake http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3906 Jake Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:55:24 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3906 Re "Kati/Kim": It is quite possible that she worked for the Lunsford-Stumbo campaign for a few days in May. I hope s/he's not home on break from D.C. because that would be disappointing. Page One has not shown support for any candidate. We have, however, accepted an advertisement for Draft Horne. Anyone is free to approach us for ad sales. Even Republicans. And we've offered advertising to Liz Fossett of Draft Crit, which I can prove via e-mail. I may have a personal bias in this race but you don't see me spinning for any particular potential candidate. If that changes in the future you'll know about it. So let's not work on assumptions alone, "Kati." What's with this argument, anyway? From the first day Page One reported that Crit was interested in the race and had been to D.C. we've received strange blanket threats from her supporters. If it's those same supporters getting up in arms here? That reflects poorly on Crit as a potential candidate because those individuals are so closely tied to her office. That would be a shame. Have to say on the flip side that Crit and her spokesperson were more than accommodating when we ran our first story on her. They spoke on the record. It's only been a few rogue supporters who have gone defensive-- telling us we've burned bridges and accusing us of being less than credible. People need to chill out. If there's news then blogs are going to report it. This is news. The root of this discussion is that certain bloggers have literally been PAID for their explicit support. And others (national bloggers) may have been directly and unduly influenced by those bloggers, wrongly assuming them to be adequately informed when they're just paid-for promotional arms. That's kind of, oh, fucked up and Gunterman is right to point it out. Re “Kati/Kim”: It is quite possible that she worked for the Lunsford-Stumbo campaign for a few days in May. I hope s/he’s not home on break from D.C. because that would be disappointing.

Page One has not shown support for any candidate. We have, however, accepted an advertisement for Draft Horne. Anyone is free to approach us for ad sales. Even Republicans. And we’ve offered advertising to Liz Fossett of Draft Crit, which I can prove via e-mail.

I may have a personal bias in this race but you don’t see me spinning for any particular potential candidate. If that changes in the future you’ll know about it. So let’s not work on assumptions alone, “Kati.”

What’s with this argument, anyway? From the first day Page One reported that Crit was interested in the race and had been to D.C. we’ve received strange blanket threats from her supporters. If it’s those same supporters getting up in arms here? That reflects poorly on Crit as a potential candidate because those individuals are so closely tied to her office. That would be a shame.

Have to say on the flip side that Crit and her spokesperson were more than accommodating when we ran our first story on her. They spoke on the record. It’s only been a few rogue supporters who have gone defensive– telling us we’ve burned bridges and accusing us of being less than credible.

People need to chill out. If there’s news then blogs are going to report it. This is news. The root of this discussion is that certain bloggers have literally been PAID for their explicit support. And others (national bloggers) may have been directly and unduly influenced by those bloggers, wrongly assuming them to be adequately informed when they’re just paid-for promotional arms. That’s kind of, oh, fucked up and Gunterman is right to point it out.

]]> By: C. Wash http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3902 C. Wash Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:40:55 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3902 John Lowe, My God ! Don’t I Like Vets? Hell I’m A Vet myself, don’t make me fucking qualified for the senate does it? My wife is a woman, she don’t qualify on that account either. But I guess that makes me hate women! Sorry 'bout that! Why come to Ditch Mitch to discuss some opponents for Mitch ? Hell you got me there! They want to ditch Mitch without a thought as to who will replace him? Guess I got the wrong idea, but you put me straight. Thanks! Richard D., Thanks for some civil discourse, may be that we're wrong abour Stumbo. John Lowe,
My God ! Don’t I Like Vets? Hell I’m A Vet myself, don’t make me fucking qualified for the senate does it? My wife is a woman, she don’t qualify on that account either. But I guess that makes me hate women! Sorry ’bout that!
Why come to Ditch Mitch to discuss some opponents for Mitch ? Hell you got me there! They want to ditch Mitch without a thought as to who will replace him? Guess I got the wrong idea, but you put me straight. Thanks!

Richard D.,
Thanks for some civil discourse, may be that we’re wrong abour Stumbo.

]]> By: seesyou http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3899 seesyou Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:16:10 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3899 interesting that "Kati" worked for the very Bruce Lunsford she belittles interesting that “Kati” worked for the very Bruce Lunsford she belittles

]]> By: Richard D. http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3897 Richard D. Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:35:03 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3897 I am not trying to trash anyone. Horne, and Luallen are both great Democrats. I support Stumbo for many reasons. First, during the dark period after Bush was re-elected when there was absolutely nothing for national Democrats to be happy about, Stumbo stood up for all of us at great risk to go after Fletcher. Say what you want about the charges being dropped, but Fletcher is still gone now. Another more important reason is after he announced his Exploratory Committee I was able to recieve responses from him on two very important issues, the FISA bill and the SCHIP program. His responses to these things show that he fully supports the Constitution AND our children. That is a lot better than some Democratic Senators already up there. Plus I just believe Stumbo is a great fit for this race. If McConnell is itching for a fight he will definately get one from Stumbo. Please don't misunderstand my support for Stumbo. I feel he has earned my support more than Luallen or Horne has lost it. My support will stay with Stumbo unless he announces he won't run, but either way I will fully and completely support our nominee because any of them are a HUGE step up from MM. I do hope it is Stumbo, but if not one of the other two, Luallen or Horne. These are our only viable options. I am not trying to trash anyone. Horne, and Luallen are both great Democrats. I support Stumbo for many reasons. First, during the dark period after Bush was re-elected when there was absolutely nothing for national Democrats to be happy about, Stumbo stood up for all of us at great risk to go after Fletcher. Say what you want about the charges being dropped, but Fletcher is still gone now.

Another more important reason is after he announced his Exploratory Committee I was able to recieve responses from him on two very important issues, the FISA bill and the SCHIP program. His responses to these things show that he fully supports the Constitution AND our children. That is a lot better than some Democratic Senators already up there.

Plus I just believe Stumbo is a great fit for this race. If McConnell is itching for a fight he will definately get one from Stumbo. Please don’t misunderstand my support for Stumbo. I feel he has earned my support more than Luallen or Horne has lost it.

My support will stay with Stumbo unless he announces he won’t run, but either way I will fully and completely support our nominee because any of them are a HUGE step up from MM.

I do hope it is Stumbo, but if not one of the other two, Luallen or Horne. These are our only viable options.

]]> By: John Lowe http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3896 John Lowe Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:10:39 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3896 C. Wash, Why would you find out about a candidate at this post? If you want to check out Horne go to http://drafthorne.org/. It will tell you what you need. Also, no one is on the primary ballot so why would you pick on Horne, don't you like vets? C. Wash,

Why would you find out about a candidate at this post? If you want to check out Horne go to http://drafthorne.org/. It will tell you what you need. Also, no one is on the primary ballot so why would you pick on Horne, don’t you like vets?

]]> By: C. Wash http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3893 C. Wash Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:43:18 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3893 People there are some REAL issues out here! Probably nobody here gives a crap what I have to say, since I’m just a dumb eastern Kentucky voter who hates what Mitch McConnell, and his evil wife are doing to our country. What with my piss poor 5th grade Ky. education, and inability to express myself coherently, I attempted to find some inkling as to WHO IS THE BEST CANDIDATE TO DEFEAT MITCH !! You know, a discussion about the issues, and who can most effectively deal with them. This is not happening here, or on several other local blogs that are participating in this PETTY argument. Few, if any of you, have given me any reason to change my mind about the candidates you are supporting. WHY should I support Crit? Because she’s a female ? Is she going to campaign ? What does she do for us hillbillies? Change my mind about her, give me some F’ing facts! WHY should I support LC Horne? Because he wore a uniform? Is his name even on the primary ballot? What does he do for us eastern Ky. Hillbillies? Nothing here makes me like him any better (in fact less). Why the hell should I vote for Stumbo? Can you defend his actions, and change my closed mind? Who the hell are these other guys that are unknown in most of this state? Make your case. Now we remember why we never liked politics. Thanks to those others who attempted to restore sanity in the above comments Happy thanksgiving. People there are some REAL issues out here!

Probably nobody here gives a crap what I have to say, since I’m just a dumb eastern Kentucky voter who hates what Mitch McConnell, and his evil wife are doing to our country.

What with my piss poor 5th grade Ky. education, and inability to express myself coherently, I attempted to find some inkling as to WHO IS THE BEST CANDIDATE TO DEFEAT MITCH !! You know, a discussion about the issues, and who can most effectively deal with them.

This is not happening here, or on several other local blogs that are participating in this PETTY argument. Few, if any of you, have given me any reason to change my mind about the candidates you are supporting.

WHY should I support Crit? Because she’s a female ? Is she going to campaign ? What does she do for us hillbillies? Change my mind about her, give me some F’ing facts!

WHY should I support LC Horne? Because he wore a uniform? Is his name even on the primary ballot?
What does he do for us eastern Ky. Hillbillies? Nothing here makes me like him any better (in fact less).

Why the hell should I vote for Stumbo? Can you defend his actions, and change my closed mind?

Who the hell are these other guys that are unknown in most of this state? Make your case.

Now we remember why we never liked politics.

Thanks to those others who attempted to restore sanity in the above comments
Happy thanksgiving.

]]> By: shawn http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3891 shawn Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:17:38 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3891 googgovt, your arguments would be completely relevant if this were 2003. googgovt, your arguments would be completely relevant if this were 2003.

]]> By: kilowat http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3888 kilowat Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:39:17 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3888 Mitch must be happy today to see this going on so soon.one of the thing that brought down the rep. party here in ky they were divided .do you want to loose in 08 keep this up Mitch must be happy today to see this going on so soon.one of the thing that brought down the rep. party here in ky they were divided .do you want to loose in 08 keep this up

]]> By: BimBeau http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3887 BimBeau Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:11:07 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3887 There are no free rides here. All McConnell knows how to do is behavior by Visigoth: rape - the government, destroying its ability to deliver pillage - his opponent with lies, damn lies and twisted facts plunder - the treasury with pork legislation that benefits Mastur (Hunter) Bates. What I'd give? ... to discover how Bates (and his client list) kicks back to McConnell. Where are the consulting contracts? Where are the 'Professional Association' rubberchicken dinner-speaches? I just don't believe McConnell who is so 'ethically challenged' isn't profitting. This is just like a TV series spin-off. By the way guys ... Thanks, for a wonderful job. May you first be rewarded on Earth. There are no free rides here. All McConnell knows how to do is behavior by Visigoth:
rape - the government, destroying its ability to deliver
pillage - his opponent with lies, damn lies and twisted facts
plunder - the treasury with pork legislation that benefits Mastur (Hunter) Bates. What I’d give? … to discover how Bates (and his client list) kicks back to McConnell. Where are the consulting contracts? Where are the ‘Professional Association’ rubberchicken dinner-speaches? I just don’t believe McConnell who is so ‘ethically challenged’ isn’t profitting. This is just like a TV series spin-off.

By the way guys … Thanks, for a wonderful job. May you first be rewarded on Earth.

]]> By: goodgovtfan http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3884 goodgovtfan Thu, 22 Nov 2007 06:33:35 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3884 what we need to do is stop the bickering back and forth and raise the debate to the issues of what each candidate brings to the table. lets face it: all of our options are flawed. if you dont think mitch will spend $10 million talking about stumbo's child support payments, your crazy. same if you dont think he spends $10 million attacking luallen's involvement in the patton scandals. you can sugar coat this all you want, but the ads are going to happen. now, what we should be discussing is who will be the strongest candidate after they are attacked and who can fight back... what we need to do is stop the bickering back and forth and raise the debate to the issues of what each candidate brings to the table. lets face it: all of our options are flawed. if you dont think mitch will spend $10 million talking about stumbo’s child support payments, your crazy. same if you dont think he spends $10 million attacking luallen’s involvement in the patton scandals.

you can sugar coat this all you want, but the ads are going to happen. now, what we should be discussing is who will be the strongest candidate after they are attacked and who can fight back…

]]> By: goodgovtfan http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3883 goodgovtfan Thu, 22 Nov 2007 06:21:11 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3883 do the poor personal decisions account for the indictments as well? i'd think awfully hard before touting a big 0.1 percentage win over linda greenwell to the high-profiled office of state auditor... crit may be the best candidate, but you gotta come up with a better argument than this... do the poor personal decisions account for the indictments as well?

i’d think awfully hard before touting a big 0.1 percentage win over linda greenwell to the high-profiled office of state auditor…

crit may be the best candidate, but you gotta come up with a better argument than this…

]]> By: Shawn Dixon http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3882 Shawn Dixon Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:29:25 +0000 http://www.DitchMitchKY.com/1114/calling-out-kos-and-jonathan-singer-why/#comment-3882 Agreed. goodgovtfan, not sure if you noticed but Crit has twice been elected to state office after serving in the Patton administration. Also, you keep using the word corrupt. The administration wasn't corrupt, you had a governor who made poor personal choices. That has nothing to do with Luallen and her fantastic record as state auditor. Your tactics are shameful and destructive. Agreed.

goodgovtfan, not sure if you noticed but Crit has twice been elected to state office after serving in the Patton administration.

Also, you keep using the word corrupt. The administration wasn’t corrupt, you had a governor who made poor personal choices. That has nothing to do with Luallen and her fantastic record as state auditor.

Your tactics are shameful and destructive.

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